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captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> pauley: good morning can i'm jane pauley this is "sunday morning." in ways large and small, the genes we inherit from our forebears shape our lives. and in too many cases can sometimes cut young lives short well before their time. now a cutting-edge therapy is confronting one terrible genetic legacy head on and achieving
some success. as martha teichner will report in our cover story. >> calliope joy carr age 6, is slowly dying of a rare genetic disorder. giovanni price, also 6, has the same disease. but look, he could be any normal first grader. >> he doesn't know the miracle that he is. and he doesn't know he's not supposed to be running and jumping and playing. >> that miracle and the future of medicine, ahead this "sunday morning." >> pauley: phil collins is a music superstar who glow has dimmed somewhat in recent years. this morning he talks candidly with our jim axelrod for the record. ♪ >> the song's the same, but the singer, well, that's a different story. pop icon phil collins is back in
the spotlight, and bearing his soul. >> i got five kids, you know, and until recently i haven't lived with any of them. and that, you know, that's a personal thing that i have to deal with. >> a very different side of the superstar later on "sunday morning." >> pauley: now you see them, soon you won't. conor knighton is on the trail of the sha ripping glaciers at glacier national park. >> the tripod is carefully positioned. the framing has to be just right. when dan fagre is replicating old pictures he makes sure everything is exactly the same. to show just how much has changed. >> i consider myself a scientific pap pap for the glaciers. >> scientists have focused on these montana mountains as a poster child for climate change.
>> what happens when glacier national park loses all of its glaciers? ahead on "sunday morning." >> pauley: when it comes to fine print, the lawyer turned author john grisham has fewer pierce. his enthusiasm for his craft still shines brightly as anthony mason found out during a recent visit. >> do you still get excited to see the hard cover arrive? >> sure. every time. >> he sold nearly 300 million books, gut gone grisham's legal thrillers don't always get respect. >> in the early days rightly irritating. makes you hate critics. >> this is your first dual number one? >> he's been rewarded in other ways with 28 consecutive number one best sellers. john grisham, later on "sunday morning." >> pauley: lee cowan takes us to ma magic and colorful
mountains in the desert. mo rocca has questions for "new york times" columnist, maureen dowd. faith salie puts in a good word for swearing. and more. first, here are the headlines for this sunday morning the 23rd of october, 2016. it's a multi-media mega deal. at&t is buying time warner, owners of the warner brothers studio, cnn and hbo and more. for some $85 billion. at&t, as you knows a major cell phone provider and also owns directv. the deal faces still scrutiny from regulators. defense secretary ash carter is in irbil, iraq, this morning. carter arrived for an unannounced visit yesterday and met with the prime minister to discuss the offensive to retake mosul. americans are supporting the mission with airstrikes and advisors on the ground. isis has held the city since
2014. at a campaign appearance in pennsylvania, donald trump said yesterday he will sue the women accusing him of sexual he misconduct. an 11th woman is now speaking out publicly. a member of the swedish academy awarded bob dylan the nobel prize in literature is calling his silence sis receiving the honor i am polite and arrogant. no comment from dylan. surprise. to their loyal fans, they're known as the loveable losers. but now the chicago cubs are winners, capturing their first pennant since 1945 after beating the l.a. dodgers last night 5-0 in game six of the nlcs. they play the cleveland endians in the world series starting tuesday. stay tuned. now today's weather. a pleasant fall day is in store for much of the country.
not so in the northeast, though, where it will be breezy and cool. rain and even snow can't be ruled out. showers will also dampen the pacific northwest. in the week ahead, hot and sunny in the southwest. elsewhere, time to grab a jacket. next, how hiv helped give him a new lease on life, later -- >> they look almost like giant nice people, gentle people. >> in living color. of abuse. important step forward. the time is long overdue... pharmaceutical industry. passes - the ballot.
>> pauley: the genetic legacy each of us inherits is a powerful force. in a few extreme cases, it can even be deadly. still, thanks to science, genetics need not always be destiny. as martha teichner shows us in our cover story. >> amy and brad price's home in omaha, nebraska, is crazy with all the kids around. there are seven of them ages 2 to 11. but if you look closely you'll see small memorials to one more. liviana, who died in 2013, at
the age of 5 1/2. a rare nightmare disease called late infantile metachromatic leukodystrophy. mld. that destroys brain cells and is caused by a single, faulty gene. >> she was happy all the time. >> she loved pretty dresses. >> or a tutu. >> always had on tutus. >> she was talkative, addicted to caillou the animated tv series. a lively little girl until she was two. >> her knees were going a little knock-kneed and she had been just randomly falling down. >> her doctor said, nothing to worry about, but she quickly got worse. >> i was in the kitchen doing something i heard her crying. i turned around i said, what's wrong? mommy, my legs don't work. >> liviana was diagnosed in the fall of 2010.
>> she's sitting on the bed in her tutu and colorful sweater they're telling me she's going to die. >> these are faces of mld. many children with the disorder are dead by the age of 6. and it runs in families. if it hadn't been for liviana, amy and brad price would never have known to have their other children tested. they learned that their infant son, giovanni had inherited the faulty gene, too. >> i get a call from contract's office. >> did you just know? >> i knew. i was thinking, i've really have just been told two of my kids now are going to die. >> except that's not what happened. doing research online, amy price discovered the existence of a medical trial in milan, italy. is of an extraordinary gene therapy treatment for mld that
would save giovanni's life and later when his sister, cecilia, was born with mld. her's, too, the treatment works only only children who like them have not yet started showing symptoms. dr. alessandra biffi over saw the trial. >> the patients go to the surgery room for collection of the stem cells on monday and receive their cells back on friday. >> a patient's stem cells contain the faulty gene. which the doctors have learned how to fix. amazing, right n then they need a vehicle to insert the good gene into the stem cells before those are put back into the patient's body. here's what's really amazing. that vehicles is the hiv virus, reengineered so the children can't get aids. why the hiv virus? is it particularly efficient? >> yeah.
it's very -- >> getting around the body? >> very efficient in entering our cells, that's why we use it. >> how well did the children do? it will take years to know for sure. but so far, so good. >> at least 70-80% of them have an outstanding benefit coming from the treatment. some of the treated children were going to school and having a normal life. >> look at giovanni price, six now. in first grade. look at his sister cecilia, ceci for short. twice a year they have to go back to milan to be tested and mob stored. >> tell me about dr. biffi? >> oh, gosh. >> i call her my angel. our angel. she took us in like family. >> so why italy not the united states? gene therapy has a checkered history. in the '90s hyped as the next
big thing, research here withered after serious setbacks, including a death during clinical trials. >> you see all that typical virus -- >> but more than 15 years later it's back. one sign, dr. biffi is now head of the gene therapy program at dana farber boston children's cancer and blood disorders center. >> do you believe that gene therapy is finally coming into its own? >> i think, yes, absolutely. >> the mld trial biffi thinks demonstrates what's possible. offering promise to the 30 million americans who suffer from some 7,000 rare diseases. trials for the experimental treatment ceci and giovanni price received in milan have not begun in the united states. they are two of only 24 children
in the world with mld to receive it. >> doing pretty good out there, dub bee. >> compare giovanni -- start your spa treatment. >> to calliope joy carr also sixf bala cynwyd, pennsylvania, outside philadelphia. she can turn her head a little. she can still smile and laugh. but that's about all. she was diagnosed at two. for her parents, college professors patrick carr and maria kefalis coming to the terms with the disease was wrenching. >> the time is in slow motion. >> the social worker said, it's good to try to cry in the shower
to save it from your family and your children. >> after more than a year of rage and grief, maria decided that she had to find some way of helping mld children. it was too late for cal, but she was desperate to give her daughter's life meaning. >> we're not wealthy people. we don't know very influential people who could write a big check for a million dollars. we'll start selling cupcakes. >> the calliope joy foundation was formed in 2013. it's been slow going, but the money added up. and when maria learned about the italian trial and the fact that amy price had to keep going back to milan with giovanni and ceci it was clear she would use the money to help families get to italy. >> she sent me a picture of giovanni playing in his front
yard. he's three months younger than cal. he should be on feeding tube, paralyzed. i thought, i got to be a part of this. i need to help this happen again and again. >> maria kefalis has turned cupcakes into weapons of war. her war against mld. >> seems silly, but i don't know what else to do. >> she's raised more than $25 $250,000 and helped where she could. but she's hit a wall. so far not a single gene replacement therapy has been approved by the f.d.a. trial in italy is closed to new patients. it could be years before any children with mld will be allowed to receive the treatment in the united states. >> now it's just impatients. now it's like, when do we get this here? tell me what you need me to do. >> until then she continues to
fight her battles -- >> yeah, cupcakes! >> one cupcake at a time. the price children, proof to her that the war can be won. >> you keep using the word miracle. in what way is all of this a miracle? >> our son's still with us. that's the miracle. >> and cecilia as well. >> pauley: ahead, the latest wrinkle. ♪
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>> pauley: and now a page from our "sunday morning" almanac can october 23, 1814. 202 years ago today, the day london doctor joseph carpue performed what is widely regarded as the western world's first modern plastic surgery operation. pioneered in ancient egypt, plastic surgery was long practiced in india, where dr. carpue observed it firsthand. his subsequent successful operations, and his writings about them, caught the attention of the medical world. fast forward to today, when plastic surgery figures prominently in tabloid speculation about any number of hollywood stars. plastic surgery has even played a starring role on tv in shows
like "nip, tuck." >> i need a bigger set of torpedoes to give myself competitive glenn you want breast implants. >> popular as plastic surgery is here in the united states is even more popular in beach-body minded brazil, as cbs news discovered during a visit in 2005. tall, tan, young and lovely as she is, she's getting a little extra help these days. >> right after actually, within the clinic, i felt different already. something like, okay, people are looking now. i like it. >> pauley: when it comes plastic surgery all is not vanity. according to the american society of plastic surgeons the number of americans who had cosmetic surgery last year was about 1.7 million. but more than three times as many, yearly six million people
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>> pauley: a range of mountains appeared like magic in america's western desert a few months back. the peaks have attracted any number of visitors, including our own lee cowan. >> i-15 in nevada just outside las vegas, arguably one of the more bland stretches of pavement on the planet. but out in all that khaki is something that has motorists rubbing their eyes in disbelief. this is no mirage. it's very real, very big and very bright. >> it does sort of call to you from the road in 5 way that nothing else in the middle of the desert necessarily does. >> made of painted limestone, these technicolor towers appear both ancient and modern, both native and foreign. that is precisely why it is art
says david walker of the nevada museum of art. >> i think we're seeing a movement over the last few years, where artists would like to engage a larger public and would like to have scale. >> they look almost like people, just giant, nice people, gentle people. it's the vision of uro rondinone a swiss artist living in harlem who calls his desert friends the 7 magic mountains. what do you want people to take away from this? >> it's not something intellectual, just something to experience. i always say you don't have to understand an artwork. you have to feel it. and. >> and people have been making connections with it ever since ugo unveiled it this past may. >> it's so colorful, it's huge. it's not something you'd expect to see out here in the desert. it's real surprising. >> droves of the curious have been braving the desert heat,
not to mention warnings of venomous snakes to, come investigate the oddity for themselves. >> one, two, three. >> it's a social media magnet. >> cool, huh? >> a backdrop for all manner of things, both real and a little surreal. like the costumed aliens who showed up when we were there. still, the work is not for everyone. there are some people who say that it's marred the desert, not big fans of it. what do you say to those people? >> i say to those people, many people who have never experienced the landscape, the nevada desert, for the first time when they come with their children they see the beauty of this landscape. >> he took the boulders from the landscape itself. each he hand pick fred a nearby quarry, some weighing more than 50,000 pounds apiece. >> we moved them stone by stone. one by one. >> the stones were shaved flush
with the help of a huge diamond saw. and holes were drilled for an internal skeleton that would hold the boulders in place. and then came layer after layer of that bright day-glo paint. it's the contrast that you wanted. between the artificial and the natural. >> exactly. i tweeted use natural materials but make it artificial. >> its it's worth coming down here for. >> thank you. >> bigger than i thought. >> it is? >> it's size is historic. it's the largest land art project out here in more than 40 years. michael heizer made rift, a zigzag trench dug in a dry lake bed here in nevada back in 1968. two years later, the spiral jetty, was envisioned by robert smithson, since then, nothing has been created on that kind of scale. the nevada museum of art wanted to reprise that tradition,
especially right here, where ugo's art would get the maximum number of eyeballs from people people going to and from las vegas. >> it's just a very small percentage of people to go a museum or a gallery. so i love the idea of public art and having it in the open for everyone to see it. >> it's not forever, however. in two years, 7 magic mountains, is scheduled to be dismantled. the is sentinel, is that once beckoned the curious from the freeway will remain only in the mind's eye. >> you financed one of your films. >> let's not talk about that one. >> pauley: still to come, author john grisham holds court with anthony mason. ♪ and later, singer phil
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>> it's "sunday morning" on cbs. here again is jane pauley. >> pauley: 1993s "the pelican brief" with julia roberts and denzel washington was a hit film based on just one of the highly successful novels by john grisham. he's written enough fine print to fill a large book case, not to mention furnish a whole office as anthony mason discovered. >> these two desks were -- these were in "the film." >> john grisham's office looks like a movie set decorated with props from the films made from his legal thrillers. and the door? >> that was sues sa san sarandos law office in "the client." >> when's your boss coming back? >> why, may i ask? >> "the client" is the story of a lawyer. >> i'm reggie love. >> played by susan sarandon in the 199 film, she represents a boy who may know where the body of a murdered u.s. senator is buried.
>> then just keep our fingers crossed. >> first we got to be sure the body's even there, right? >> suspense like this has helped grisham sell nearly 300 million books. >> do you still get excited to see the hard cover arrive? >> sure. every time. these came in two days ago. >> "the whistler" the sale of a corrupt judge and an indian casino is the latest thriller for the author, who's had 28 consecutive number one "new york times" fix best sellers going back too to "the pelican brief" in 1992. >> here's the cool stuff, foreign ed glick how many countries are you published in. >> up to 48 or 49 language isz it's been quite a journey for johnny grisham junior as he was called in south haven high in mississippi. the son of a cotton farmer, grisham would get his law degree from ole miss. >> this is your first business
card? >> yes. back when i was a hungry lawyer. my little office in south haven, mississippi, on state line road. >> i had a hard time saying no to people in trouble. i really had a hard time. just because folks needed help. when you do that as a young lawyer it's hard to make a buck. >> to make an extra buck, grisham started writing. why did you think you could do it? >> i didn't know if i could do it. i knew i was going to try. i used to walk in a book store reich this see all of these books on the walls i would say, who wants to hear from "what do i have to add to all this. >> where did that bug come from? you hadn't really been writing before. >> i had never written anything. i had never studied writing. i had a great story. >> simple as the story. >> it was a courtroom drama that
i fictionalized that became "a time to kill." >> it would take him three years during which time he was also serving in the mississippi state legislature. were you a good legislator? >> i was terrible. i had the highest absentee rate of any freshman legislator. i got sick of the job. i wrote of a lot of "a time to kill" at the state capitol in jackson, mississippi, hiding in little committee rooms killing time waiting for legislation to come to the floor. >> it's not exactly a blockbuster when it comes out. >> a total flop. they printed 5,000 hard back copies. i bought a thousand. we couldn't give them away. i sold them out of the trunk of my car for several months at libraries just trying to unload the books to pay the invoice. >> what made you go back and write another one? >> well, i had a great idea. or an idea that i liked a lot. >> keep each other's secrets. >> i like that. >> "the firm" the story of a young lawyer who uncovers the
dark side of his firm when two associates are murdered. went on to sell seven million copies. >> had a little chat with the fbi. >> even before the tom cruise film was released in 1993, grisham quit politics and the law to write full time. >> it changed my life. everything was different after that. >> i don't get the sense you've ever missed practicing law. >> no, i never have. again i've been out of it now nor 25 years. >> but you go back to it in your books all the time. >> that's the best way to practice law. is writing about it not having to be in the courtroom. >> nine of grisham's novels have been made into movies. most of them very successful. >> steven king told me 20 years ago, get all your money up front. kiss it goodbye. expect it to be something different.
if you don't like it don't sell it. >> you financed one of your films. >> let's don't talk about that one. it almost bankrupted me. >> it did? >> it cost a lot of money. it was brilliant idea i had for a little league baseball movie. it was a total flop. >> we're cheating, okay? >> we knew what we were doing when the season started. we can't stop now. >> his baseball movie "mickey" may have struck out but grisham built a real life field of dreams. >> we started construction in 1995 opened it in '96 with a couple hundred kids. >> after moving his family to virginia from mississippi, he couldn't find a place for his son and daughter to play ball. >> so i got mad and here we are. >> in a cow pasture 20 miles from charlottesville he built six ball fields, started an
independent league with 20 teams, paid the umpires and even painted the lines at times. >> are you still the commissioner? >> i am the commissioner. owner. i'd love to give it to somebody. still write checks to support it. it does not cover the red ink. but i didn't build it to make a profit, i promise you that. >> for 20 years now, hundreds of little leaguers have taken the field every spring. must have been pretty proud of that. >> still proud of it. still proud of it. >> you will find his son's name on a plaque here at cove creek park, but not the author's. grisham keeps a low profile in his adopted state. what made you come here? >> well, we didn't know anybody. that was the attraction. >> really? >> we were looking for a place to hide. >> the 61-year-old writer isn't kidding about hiding. our interview stopped suddenly when a phone rang in a back
room. >> the secretary used to answer it. she's gone. she's not being replaced. >> john grisham still likes to see his name on a dust jacket, but no where else. >> the voicemail was full the first month after she left and i have not answered the phone since. 32 months ago. i'm at a point in life where the people who matter can find me. and nobody else can. all that kind of stuff. nobody else can find me. >> you like that? >> i love it. yes. i'm not going to live any other way. >> pauley: next -- every time i say sugar and fudge -- >> you'll swear by faith salie. pampers.
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>> pauley: could bad language possibly be a good thing? our contributor faith salie swears it's true. and, yes, parental guidance for what she's about to say is advised. >> do you usually think you're the smartest bleep bleep in the room? you may be right based on a recent study. researchers found that people who curse a lot are more intelligent. contrary to the negative stereotype that folks who swear have poor vocabularies, a fluency in taboo language correlates with overall verbal fluency. the more words you know the more you know. the more colorfully you can express yourself with nuance, metaphor and emotion. and i'm happy to note that men
and women in this experiment swore in equal measure, so let's hear it for the ladies. there is something to all of this. i definitely feel dumber now that i'm the mother of a 2-year-old and 4-year-old. i thought it was sleep deprivation, but now i understand it's because those adore little "bleep" have been sabotaging by iq. every time i say sugar and fudge little neurons in my brain probably die. my husband is a graduate of two ivy league universities with a degree in classics and he sounds like a david mamet character when i hear him on a business call. >> you know your business i know mine. your business is "bleep." >> perhaps should not be annoyed at my mother-in-law when she uses the "f word" in front of my children. grandma, a phd is trying to enrich their lexicon to go to fine schools. also, cursing makes you feel better. in another study, participants were asked to plunge their hands
into ice water for as long as they could bear it. when they were encouraged to swear up a storm they were able to keep their hands under water 73% longer. even shakespeare acknowledges the power of the profane when he has caliban in "the tempest" declare you taught me long and my profit on't i know how to curse. now if you'll please excuse me i have to wash my mouth out with soap. it's gonna taste like "bleep." >> we're going to go live -- >> pauley: family matters with columnist maureen dowd. >> my own little basket of deplorables. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
found she can't please everyone. as she reveals video to mo rocca in a round of questions and answers. >> do you read the comments? >> never. >> and not looking at reader feedback is probably a wise decision, if you're "new york times" columnist, maureen dowd. >> i'm always making one side or the other angry. i'm really kind of shy and introverted but when i write it has to be a tougher part of myself because that's my job. >> and her job this presidential campaign has been hitting both sides. hard. sheik excoriated hillary clinton for her long pattern of ethical slipping and sliding. as for donald trump and his performance in last wednesday's debate. >> my social security, payroll contribution will go up as will donald's assuming he can't pick out how to get out of it. what we want to do to -- >> such a nasty woman. >> the fact that she was able to
goad him into calling her a nasty woman when she was discussing the intricacies of social security and taxes was a triumph of psychological warfa warfare. >> dowd's new book "the year of voting dangerously" includes many of her columns and none of those comments. do you not read the comments because you think they would hurt your feelings? >> oh, they would hurt my feelings. when i was a little i was so overly sensitive. i actually thought that if someone said something mean to you it would get in your bloodstream and it would be like leukemia and you would die. >> she may not heed her comments, but peg dedowd does. always at the ready to stick up for her little sister. >> no one better say anything to me about maureen. >> i read all of her comments. >> and? >> and i get very angry sometimes. it's like being in a god father
movie you take one of their's, they take one of yours, you go to the mattresses. >> this is dowd's 9th presidential campaign but this time around, she says, the national mood is uniquely terrible. >> there have been a lot of stories that couples are breaking up all over the count country. >> a friend of mine, his wife said to him, they have been married for over 20 years, seriously if you vote for trump i will divorce you. >> right. >> have you ever seen anything like this? >> no. >> people feel very intensely that if donald trump gets elected we're going to have the zombie apocalypse. my siblings feel just as strongly that if hillary gets in there will be the abyss. >> he he is sort of the law and order sibling? that's right, many's brother kevin a rock-ribbed republican who occasionally takes over his sister's column to hurl slabs of red meat at her defenseless readers. >> particularly like the comments that come in afterwards. >> so you read the comments?
>> i keep a scrapbook of them. >> yes, he's voting for donald trump. >> trump is not my first, second or third choice. but trump represents change. >> so does maureen's sister, peggy, she embodies change. >> we were goldwater girls. >> she cast her first vote for conservative barry goldwater. then made her way left with jimmy carter. then tacked right again for reagan and both bushes. this election she's leaning trump but -- >> she went to cuba for a vacation and fell in love with che guevar and turned communist for three days. anything can happen. is. >> you're a pretty solid conservative but had this dalliance with communism. >> and socialism. >> and you were bernie sanders voter. >> i didn't vote for obama. >> maureen dowd grew up the youngest of five in a tight-knit irish catholic family in washington, d.c. her father averages police inspector in charge of senate
security. he got to see the members of that august body in some of their leg august moments. >> he had the worm's eye view, so these politicians were not trying to impress him. and my brothers were pages there as well. they would see the nitty-gritty. they would see senators come in the morning drunk. then other senators' wives would be calling saying, where's my husband? , you know, because there was hot of hanke pang 'in those da days. my father tended to judge politics on whether they seemed to be good people. although he was a democrat. >> indeed dowd's column focuses lesson policy and more on the person. you've heard the charge that you and your legions of imitators, by focusing so much on character and personality have trivialized the process. >> i think it's just the reverse. when ever america has had a trauma, whether it's watergate
or vietnam or iraq, if you look back, those decisions were made on the basis of the president's personality or personal demons. >> dowd met donald trump in the late 1980s and admitted early this campaign that covering him might mean, he would send out one of his midnight mordant tweets about me. something like, she started as a three now she's a one. >> i knew that we cut me off because i would be honest and he tweeted that i was a neurotic dope, i was whacky and crazy. so i was very hurt, because i thought he could have come up with something much more customized. spent more time on it. like elizabeth warren has pocahontas. i was very hurt. >> like about a banshee. >> that would have been perfect. >> she's been writing about the clintons for 25 years, winning a
pulitzer for her commentary on the lewinsky scandal and impeachment crisis. >> hillary has these two sides that are in conflict. the dark side where she's fearful and paranoid and secretive and has a lot of scar tissue from all these battles, that she's fought and from her husband, fighting his battles, you know, with the women who have come forward, trips upment light, idealistic side that she started with. >> her job she says is to give whoever is in power a hard time. >> even my family doesn't understand when a republican president is in they don't talk me for four or eight years, because they're mad that i'm critiquing. then when a democrat is in they love it. >> but her family is always her personal focus group. >> all of my fellow "times" columnists have been going on these margaret mead road trips, we're going to find this strange exotic creature called the trump voter and try to understand who
they are and rope with them. when i have to do is go home. my own little basket of deplorables. >> if this cam spain creating strive spin families, the dowds are taking it in stride. >> i have been married nor 42 years, we're registered democrats. so if you ought to see counseling if you can't sort this out. >> i think there was more attention in our household when w was president. >> i was almost a fanatic for him. if maureen wrote any criticism of him, i just went nuts. >> she cancelled her "new york times" subscription. >> did i. after he got into the white house and years later i thought, this is ridiculous, you know. if i'm dying he isn't going to be at my bedside. maureen will. >> pauley: next -- >> told me i was going to need a transplant. >> i just said to myself, i can
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>> pauley: many a path to marriage begins with a decidedly simple gift, such as flowers. definitely not the case for the wedding our steve hartman dropped in on. >> there are always a lot of people to thank on a wedding day. but the bride to be at this church outside chicago had one person to thank overall others, a total stranger, who made this possible. >> i wouldn't have been here if it wasn't for him. >> a couple of years ago, out of the blue, 27-year-old heather krueger was diagnosed with stage 4 liver disease. doctors said she had just a few months to live. >> they immediately told me i was going to need a transplant. >> that's not enough time to really find a donor, right? >> no. by that time i could really feel my body shutting down.
>> enter our hero. chris dempsey is a code enforcement officer for the village of frankfurt, illinois. he says he was in the break room one day when he overheard a guy talking about this woman who needed a liver donor. >> i spent four years in the marine corps learned never to run away from anything, i just said to myself, hey, if i can help, i'm going to help. >> keep in mind he'd never met heather but he got tested to see if he was compatible. and when he found out he was, that's when they finally met for the first time. >> we had lunch together, discussed what the whole process was going to be. >> did you buy, at least? >> no. he bought. >> the guy's amazing. >> yeah, he bought, that i remember. >> not long after they checked into the university of illinois hospital. the transplant, which involves removing about half of the donor's liver, went off without a hitch. afterward, chris and heather remained close. they got so close in fact, he
was at her wedding last weekend. he had to be, really. i mean, what's a wedding without a groom? and so it was, that a year and a half after giving her part of his liver, she gave him all her heart. >> you are the most incredible man i've ever known. you believe in me and you make me feel amazing every single day. because of you, i laugh, smile and i dare to dream again. >> acts of great kindness are done without expectation. when chris decided to give an organ to a random stranger he had no idea he was saving his own wife. but such is the way of goodness. the more likely you are to live for others the more likely you are to live happily ever after.
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cbs. and here again is jane pauley. >> pauley: with songs such as "take me home" phil collins has touched millions of fans over the years. now, after touching bottom in his personal life, he's telling his very personal story to our jim axelrod, for the record. ♪ >> if he doesn't look exactly like you remember him, well, it's been awhile. in fact, it had been six years since phil collins last played in public when he kicked off the u.s. open tennis tournament two months ago. ♪ he is 65 now, walking with a cane and a little hard of hearing.
not to mention the bad wrist that keeps him from playing the drums. but phil collins wants us all to know, he is not fading away. >> i've been made aware the last few years that people have missed me. i was checking into a hotel in happy and the bellman said something to me. it really touched me. it was like, when are you going to come back, because we really miss you. ♪ but as much as he wants to look forward, the bulk of collins' energy lately has been spent looking back. his new memoir "not dead yet" is a candid chronicle of struggle with marriage, drinking and fame. maybe this was an attempt to gain some clarity. now you wanted to understand it. >> i think so. you know, i mean, when you've
been married three times and you've got five kids, you don't live with them and been divorced three times you start to wonder whether it's you, you know? can't always be someone else's fault. ♪ born and raised in the outskirts of post-war london, his book charts his beginnings as a performer playing the artful dodger in a west end production of "oliver." ♪ through his first run as a rock star with genesis. ♪ to his turn as one of the biggest pop icons of the '80s and '90s. ♪ but if you think selling 250 million records insulates you from regret, collins is proof one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. >> i think in the '80s i became
very annoying. ♪ you know, i know a lot of people love it, but i can see that i was omnipresent and that can get up people's noses. >> the high point then seems to be one of his low points now that he has three decades to think about it. the summer of 1958 when he played live-aid in london in the morning, then took the concord to play in philadelphia in the evening. >> the annoying guy that thinks he can act and thinks he can -- not only does he play live-aid once he plays it twice. >> he couldn't help himself. once he hit it big he pushed hard, with no regard for consequence. ♪ he built a solo career.
he became a sought after producer. ♪ he even had his own big band. i'm reading the chapter and i'm thinking, phil, slow down. slow down. did that thought ever cross your mind? >> not really. >> nothing could withstand that pace, certainly not any of his three marriages. these days having reconciled with his third wife and living in miami with their two teenaged sons, collins seems to be finding liberation in the honest reckoning. ♪ take his oscar nominated grammy winning hit "against all odds." he can't even play it. >> apart from writing it, i only
played it twice. >> you can't play "against all odds." >> i could learn. but i can't play it, no. >> but phil collins has written this book to reckon with much bigger things than that. ♪ par in 2006 his third marriage falling apart, living alone in a hotel while working on the broadway version "tarzan" collins almost let the pain kill him. >> and you discover the pain relief in the mini bar. were you aware were drinking that much? >> yeah. yeah. ♪ this man who had given so much pleasure to so many people could not find any happiness himself. the workaholic became an alcoholic.
how dad did it get? >> i was at death's door, you know. i mean -- >> hang on. literally, death's door? >> that's what the doctor said. i was in lausanne intensive care in a hospital. my pancreas had sort of buggared up. organs were shutting down. and the doctor said to lindsey works is my assistant, mr. collins' papers in order, because we don't think he might not make it. >> ask phil collins an honest question and you get an honest answer. >> you good? you clean? >> you know, i was clean for three years. now i feel like i can have a glass of wine. >> these days, collins gives his real kicks in san antonio, texas, of all places, remembering the alamo. the show hooked kids on both
sides of "the atlantic" because phil collins grew up to become the largest private collector of alamo artifacts. his collection was valued at more than $15 million when he donated it to the state of texas. you really get a sense how heavy -- >> if this all seems like a bit of a head scratcher, it makes perfect sense when you consider that for collins, the story of the alamo, like his own, is far more complicated than you might think. >> it wasn't bad members caps and good texans, it was very real. >> seems like you are in to setting the record straight. >> yeah, i think it needs to be done s. >> setting the record straight is what phil collins needs to do wherever he is these days. the acoustics okay in room like this? >> like in the studio he's set up ought home in miami where he contemplates his come back. >> if i had to bet one side or
the other, that phil collins is actually going to make music again that we all hear or should i take the other side that have? >> oh, i think i would owe it to you to say, i think it's possible, yeah. ♪ >> maybe it will be more solo work. maybe he'll team up with his son, nick, who backed him up on drums at the u.s. open. or perhaps another reunion with genesis. >> whatever form it takes, you're not done yet. >> no, i'm not dead yet. >> sounds like a good name for -- >> pauley: coming up. alan turing makes history, again.
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>> pauley: it happened this past week, the righting of a long-standing wrong in britain. the government announced it was granting posthumous pardons to roughly 50,000 men convicted of homosexual offenses in years past. another 15,000 men who are still living will be able to apply for pardons on an individual basis. the policy shift is informally referred to as turing's law, after alan turing, the math genius who helped break the germans enigma code during world war ii only to apparently commit suicide in 1954 after a conviction. >> i have something to tell you -- >> turing story was the basis of the recent film "the imitation game" starring benedict cumberbatch. turing was granted a posthumous pardon in 2013, britain largely
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>> pauley: glacier national park in montana has a name to live up to. but it's a name that seems to be living on borrowed time as conor knighton discovered, on the l. >> like most photographers, dan figure ser obsessed with getting the perfect shot. we'll hike around 12 miles together, up steep mountain passes, across icy streams, all to photograph a small slice of none none's glacier national park. visitors take snapshots of the views. but when dan looks through his learns he sees something different. he's trying to take a picture of what isn't there, the tons and tons of ice that have disappeared. >> oh, my gosh. >> none of that is there. >> figure sir an ecologist with the u.s. survey. >> the glacier filled this bay
son using material from the park's archives the usgs has been rephotographing old black and white images. >> it's a little bit of interesting, a little bit of detective story. you're trying to find the exact spot that a photographer stood decades before and shoot the exact same picture, then compare the changes between the two time spans. >> in a short amount of time, the change has been dramatic. >> so, 50 years ago what would we have been looking at? >> well, 50 years ago we would have been under rice right now. >> right here? >> a lot of ice. >> the sign says glacier national park. but some models have suggested that these montana mountains will lose most if not all of their glaciers by 2030. soon, there won't be any ice left to photograph. >> you know, like a lot of people i really like the glaciers in glacier park. while i will be sad to see them go personally, i think my role as a scientist to make sure that
everybody understands the pace at which they're disappearing and the reasons for that, so that, again, better decisions could be made societally. >> the reason, scientist explain, has said that climate change is fundamentally the greatest threat to the integrity of our national parks that we have ever experienced. visiting 9 parks this year i've experienced it firsthand. at kenai fee brothers in alaska the massive glaciers will survive longer than those in montana but they're still sha ripping. walking into the park there are signs where there was one ice, 1899, 1926, 1961, all the way up to 2005. markers of where this glacier used to be. >> let me give you a little shot of what we're looking at. >> last year, president obama paid a visit to deny fjords to talk about climate change. >> that is melting glaciers and
blocks of ice. >> in 2016 this glacier has already retreated over 250 feet. that's a new record. >> the glaciers have been receding. the surprising thing, the thing that let's us know that this is indication of climate change is the rate of retreat has increased drastically. >> the park, ranger fiona uses photos to illustrate before and after this. is 19912. >> cover this whole area. >> from alaska to montana, photos that were originally taken to publicize these natural wonders are now being used to publicize how they're disappearing. it packs a punch that a chart or a graph just can't deliver. >> i think people are extremely visual. the old saying about when painting or photo being wort a thousand words, get a lot of information visually and we tend to trust that even more than what we hear. >> with these photos, the
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estimated $62 billion in damage. now program note. those of you who faithfully record our show each weekend may have noticed that your dvr didn't do its job last sunday. let's just say it was a technical problem, ours. we're at work on it by next sunday you'll be table dvr us as you always have using the listing "cbs sunday morning" promise. with that on to john dickerson in washington for a look at what's ahead on "face the nation." good morning, john. >> dickerson: good morning, we're in the home stretch, debates are over, 16 days left. we'll talk to rnc chairman about donald trump and the state of the republican party. plus we'll have some brand new poll numbers from those battleground states. >> pauley: all right, john dickerson in washington, thanks. we'll be watching. and next week here on "sunday morning."
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